User talk:TLPG/Archive 1

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Happy editing, Brandon Rhea (help forum | blog) 12:49, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Peachstar Kratt
I told her about the the other vandalism as you saw on my blog. But I did not tell her to write that.

Autism Rights
You've mentioned interest in autism rights and neurodiversity. I wanted to let you know that I'm currently working on adding more pages to the Autism Wiki about these subjects, including leaders of the movement, books, a few positive qualities associated with autism, and other things. I'm aiming to make it friendly to autistic people, and to teach non-autistic people a bit about the autistic community.

If you wanted to add things too, please feel free! It seems like you have quite a bit of experience in this area. Luna Rose didn't sign

I'm not sure how much time I'll have here given that I maintain another Wikia and I have been intensively involved with yet another. But I'll certainly be looking in. Not a fan of "leaders" as such because really we are all in the same battle and have equal rights within it. But those who get publicity for their efforts certainly deserve a mention. I also think we should be naming and shaming those who are hurting us and educating readers on these people and organisations as to why what they say is wrong and so on. Like parents of Autistics who preach the vaccines cause Autism BS and encouraging a shut down of such people where it hurts - Ginger Taylor springs to mind on that one. TLPG (talk) 02:20, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
The change to the WP page is about a month old. My reservation still stands that they're not actual pronouns, or worse, resurrected versions of current pronouns. Sadly, if I revert the WP article, it would be a violation of the policies there.--TwoTailedFox (talk) 00:21, September 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Already did. Changes to include those pronouns was made on August 11th with a cite to a Tumblr link. I agree that the anonymous IP added the pronouns as well, but it's far from the most recent attempt to do so.--TwoTailedFox (talk) 00:39, September 11, 2015 (UTC)

Query
Hi there.

I was just wondering - are you an admin or (if your not), do you know any admin members I can talk to. I've got an idea for the wiki but would like to ask about it before doing it - just to make sure I'm not breaking any rules or wasting my time.

Thank you. :)

DeltaSquad5 (talk) 21:35, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

My Idea
Thank you for responding and for the information; It's a shame that no admins are apparently active at the moment.

My idea is to start putting in articles about movies and tv shows that feature autistic characters (especially since the Autism Wiki already has an article about Kim Peek - who inspired Dustin Hoffman's character in Rain Man), such as Mercury Rising, Mozart and the Whale, Adam, Ben X, etc. 

As well as this, we could maybe do what a lot of other wikis do and have articles about the characters within those shows. For example, the Disney Wiki will have articles about their movies/tv shows/games (such as The Nightmare Before Christmas for example) and then separate articles that talk about the characters within them (such as Jack Skellington). In terms of movies featuring autistic characters, you could have an article about the movie The Boy Who Could Fly and then a separate article about Eric Gibb - the mute autistic boy who is one of the movie's protaganists.

As I say, this is just an idea and up to you (and the admins, should any become active) about whether we should do it or not.

Thank you for your time. :)

DeltaSquad5 (talk) 22:07, October 22, 2015 (UTC)

Response
I'm afraid I don't know how to use the sandbox.

In regards to the movies, I'm thinking their pages will mainly be like those on wikipedia - showing the plot and the general reception. For those talking about the fictional autistic characters, those will be more in depth.

Best of luck with the pages you want to edit. :)

Apologies
I understand what you mean, and I do apologise. I'm afraid that I didn't know how to reset the main page back to how it was and I felt that leaving a hatred-filled message on the first page would be worse if I did nothing about it.As such, that's why I deleted the message and left a note - just in case anyone had seen the message.

Once again, I'm sorry for my actions.

RE:I'm back
Yes!! I'm glad. Okay I didn't that about Nurse.Woybff (talk) 22:31, January 11, 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome on that MLP edit.Woybff (talk) 12:22, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Thoughts and Goals
I'm surprised, and willing to talk.

I hope you understand that I take improving the wiki seriously. To make this clear, I'll show you the Autism Spectrum category of wikiHow, where I have done most of my work in the past year. http://www.wikihow.com/Category:Autism-Spectrum I started and edited many of the articles there, and have been working with the community to build a top-notch and accepting collection. Please take this as a sign that I am not your enemy; I want to help the wikia grow.

Honestly, transgender issues seem fairly simple to me, but that may be because of the way I was raised. You wish to be called Autistic and TLPG (unless you have a different nickname you prefer?), so that is what I call you. Amelia Baggs asks to be called "Amelia" (and legally changed hir name) and to be referred to using sie/hir/hirs, so that's what I call hir. It would be rude to call you "with autism" when you want to be called "autistic" or to refer to you as a "she," and I wouldn't ever call a transgender person something that they didn't want to be called.

My priorities are: Some things I could see happening at Wikia: I feel that it's important for us to work together, as a community, with a positive focus. We can bounce around ideas, collaborate, build upon each other, and treat each other with respect and compassion. I've been blessed to have that at wikiHow, and I would like to find it here.
 * 1) Supporting the dignity of a/Autistic people (autism acceptance, neurodiversity paradigm, shift away from pathologized/negative model, etc.)
 * 2) Acknowledging that it's okay to be different
 * 3) Reassuring a/Autistic people, especially the newly diagnosed, and parents of the newly diagnosed. Many of us grew up with a laundry list of things that were "wrong" with us, which is trash, so let's take out the trash and encourage others to be happy. I want to help them see that their childhood bullies were wrong about them.
 * 4) Creating a welcoming space for a/Autistic and ally editors
 * 1) Continuing shift towards neutral/positive language in regards to autism; erasing all "autism is doom and here are 30 reasons why you'll DIE" garbage
 * 2) Cleaning up all these spam/empty pages
 * 3) More articles on autism symptoms, with neutral language and tips for managing them as needed, and articles on autism upsides
 * 4) Shifting focus towards a/Autistic readers first (loved ones second)
 * 5) More articles on anti-autism groups, so that others know whom to avoid
 * 6) Mutual links between WikiHow and Wikia resources
 * 7) More positive pictures of a/Autistic people (as an artist I could get cracking on this)

MissLunaRose (talk) 01:02, January 12, 2016 (UTC)

I take claims of misinformation very seriously, because I put a lot of research into what I do and would hate to get things wrong. I spent some time digging through things based on what you said, and here is the result.

I am defintely not in support of the "extreme male brain" theory, especially as a feminine person. Non-autistic theories of autism often get it wrong. (Hmm, maybe we could make a page debunking the male brain thing, next to the vaccine/mercury myth and other misconceptions.) My research suggests that the Autism Women's Network is friendly towards transgender (and nonbinary) people, based on their "About " page and statement on gender. My research on non-binary people suggests that mostly they are considered transgender, althougha few do not identify that way. Then there's the whole debate about the asterisk in "trans*," which looks like it is pretty much settled.

Do you have a source that the blog is fake?

Obviously autism is neither all sunshine and rainbows, nor an apocalyptic horror. A focus on positivity could be helpful to autistic people's self esteem, and we can do that while acknowledging that there are real struggles and sharing resources for dealing with the rough parts.

I was thinking about doing a page on murder that would deal with the myth of the autistic shooter (and also have a lot of information on caregiver murder, which is a much bigger and more real problem). I even started it, but my computer randomly shut itself down so I lost my work. This could include the speculations on autism and their harmful effects.

I feel a little uncomfortable about having long pages listing reasons why people are bad. I think that we should keep them short, sweet, and to the point, so that readers don't lose interest. (Besides, even a short summary of their actions would be pretty clear.)

I've started uploading a few illustrations. I plan to focus on autistic people stimming and otherwise looking clearly autistic, to promote the view that this is normal and not a big deal.

Also: how do you add the source in the image description thing? I don't know how to do this; could you teach me?

I look forward to working with you.

MissLunaRose (talk) 01:13, January 14, 2016 (UTC)